[MA-SOC] [OT] Re: V Tech Tragic Event this morning

Richard Fung aoshi00 at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 19 17:54:16 EDT 2007


Again, w/ the bombs, terroists and the like. I was talking about regular 
folks who lose it and shoot people because they have guns.

Well, no point in beating on a dead horse, you are perfectly okay w/ no gun 
regulation and I'm not, let's agree to disagree.

Rich

>From: B Smith <ifuritaoni at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Metro Anime New York City--social list 
><ma-nyc-soc at lists.baka.org>
>To: Metro Anime New York City--social list <ma-nyc-soc at lists.baka.org>
>Subject: Re: [MA-SOC] [OT] Re: V Tech Tragic Event this morning
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>The story, if you didn't grasp the sacrasm, was the
>incident that happened on September 11th 2001.
>
>It was 19 islamic fundamentalists who with nothing but
>mace and boxcutters - NO GUNS WHATSOEVER - took
>command of 4 planes and wreaked havoc the likes of
>which are still dealing with to this day.
>
>B Smith
>
>--- Richard Fung <aoshi00 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No kidding, that means every guy on average killed
> > over 125 people with a
> > knife or hammer.  How did that happen, in one
> > setting, were the 2,400
> > helpless sheeps all drugged and asleep?  Otherwise
> > the 19 guys must’ve been
> > like a special trained Spartan army in 300 or
> > something.  Mace eh, conjuring
> > up the image of Jack Nicholson in “The Shining”,
> > “here’s Johnny!”
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: B Smith <ifuritaoni at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: Metro Anime New York City--social list
> > ><ma-nyc-soc at lists.baka.org>
> > >To: Metro Anime New York City--social list
> > <ma-nyc-soc at lists.baka.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [MA-SOC] [OT] Re: V Tech Tragic Event
> > this morning
> > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:17:42 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Why I referred to the NRA quote is not because I
> > agree
> > >with them in fact - personally I think the second
> > >amendment should be repealed quite frankly - but
> > the
> > >spirit.  Intentions kill, anger kills, hatred
> > kills,
> > >madness kills.  The gun is only a means to an end.
> > >Having a sword makes a person no less dangerous.
> > It's
> > >easy to say, well if the dumb #$$@$#@ had a sword
> > only
> > >two people or something would have died.... but
> > >there's a Klingon saying: "a man can cut a thousand
> > >necks in one night's running".  I think you can
> > >appreciate the significance (though don't try to
> > >visualize klingon ninjas...i keep coming up with
> > >Sasuke having a ridged forehead...don't ask me why)
> > >
> > >Back to the main point.  Stop me if you heard this
> > >story....there was once - a while back - a group of
> > 19
> > >guys.  They were pretty pissed about something or
> > >other and decided to go on a rampage.  Like the VT
> > >shooter, they were immigrants.  Now, here's the
> > funny
> > >part....using just boxcutters and mace, they
> > managed
> > >to get over 2,400 people killed.
> > >
> > >A pretty high death count for guys not even having
> > a
> > >dueling pistol between them.  Should we ban all
> > mace
> > >and boxcutters being sold?  Should be ban all
> > >immigrants from college campus and airports?  There
> > >are no simple answers.  That simple.  Banning
> > assault
> > >weapons in the US is not going to put a dent on ALL
> > >the atrocities going on WORLDWIDE.  Yes, all the
> > tears
> > >and pity and sympthies are with these victims of VT
> > >but - sorry to be cruel - but they are just a drop
> > in
> > >the bucket.
> > >
> > >They are front page in the US but every #$@$# day
> > in
> > >this country wives/girlfriends/domestic
> > >partners/children are being abused and killed.  For
> > >every serial killer found - like Jeffory Dahmer -
> > >there are a dozen more totally under the radar and
> > >killing as we speak.  The headlines glow in neon
> > >colors that 33 are dead in Virginia meanwhile the
> > >count of american military casualties had passed
> > 3,300
> > >(100 times the # dead at VT!), a good percentage of
> > >those did NOT die by gunfire.
> > >
> > >The world is a dangerous place.  It always was,
> > just
> > >that this massacre makes it somehow seem "less"
> > safe
> > >but that's not the case.  None of us - from "good"
> > >neighborhoods or "bad" are or were ever really
> > safe.
> > >Oklahoma city proved it.  Colombine proved it.
> > 9/11
> > >proved it.  VT proved it.  When is America going to
> > >wake up and realize the problem is not the weapons
> > but
> > >a rush to judgement, a rush to anger, a rush to
> > "kill"
> > >as a final solution to all that ails you.  Your dad
> > >grounded you for something, kill him.  You wanna
> > leave
> > >your pregnant wife for a hot mistress, kill her and
> > >dump her body in the bay.  Some co-workers ID'd you
> > as
> > >you were robbing the 24 hr Wendy's, waste em.
> > >
> > >~_~
> > >B Smith - probably profiled as most like to kill,
> > but
> > >too afraid of breaking a nail during rampage to be
> > be
> > >bothered.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Richard Fung <aoshi00 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hear you James, but what I was saying is how
> > > > easily a regular joe could
> > > > get an AK-47.  I mean they just sell to anybody
> > > > (who's not a criminal)
> > > > automatic weapons?  I'm not sure about the
> > specifics
> > > > of gun laws, I thought
> > > > hunters and police officers need to get a
> > license to
> > > > bear arms for their
> > > > profession.  I know most gun-crazy people are
> > red
> > > > necks in the South and
> > > > Mid-west, I was just saying it's the NRA who has
> > > > influence on the gov't and
> > > > such, it's all about the dough too.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, I don't want to live under
> > dictatorship
> > > > or censorship in any
> > > > form, but you take everything into account and
> > try
> > > > to balance things.  I
> > > > don't care about carrying guns so I don't mind
> > if
> > > > they are more strict with
> > > > it.  Like how they restricted smoking in
> > restaurants
> > > > in NY/NJ, it's all good
> > > > for me because I don't need to die of second
> > hand
> > > > smoking which is even
> > > > worse than the smokers themselves.
> > > >
> > > > It's just my perspective though, I know guns
> > don't
> > > > tell you to kill, but it
> > > > certainly make it that much more doable.  bang
> > bang,
> > > > mass murdering is a
> > > > cinch.  If not, you probably need to get your
> > acts
> > > > together and study how to
> > > > make a bomb, or polish on your samurai swords
> > > > skills..
> > > >
> > > > Rich
> > > >
> > > > >From: James Leung Man-Fai <jamesrai at yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: Metro Anime New York City--social
> > list
> > > > ><ma-nyc-soc at lists.baka.org>
> > > > >To: Metro Anime New York City--social list
> > > > <ma-nyc-soc at lists.baka.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [MA-SOC] [OT] Re: V Tech Tragic
> > Event
> > > > this morning
> > > > >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >I agree with both Brian and Jill about the
> > issue of
> > > > gun control.  Murderous
> > > > >individuals will conduct murderous deeds
> > despite
> > > > the lack of access to
> > > > >firearms.  In the Rwandan Genocide, the Hutu
> > > > extremist killed nearly
> > > > >800,000 people with mostly machetes.  The lack
> > of
> > > > firearms didn’t prevent
> > > > >that horrible tragedy.
> > > > >
> > > > >In addition, Cho Seung-Hui had a clean
> > background
> > > > according his criminal
> > > > >record, and any legally constructed restriction
> > to
> > > > gun ownership would be
> > > > >ineffective (except revoking the Second
> > Amendment).
> > > > >
> > > > >Rich: Most gun owners are not rich.  They are
> >
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